2019-10-07 SITCOM-SSCONE webex

Ongoing discussions within the SWIM Community of Interest

2019-10-07 SITCOM-SSCONE webex

Venue

Date: 07 Oct 2019  1400-1530

webex link: https://eurocontrol-conferences.webex.com/join/wvanhamm   |  706 775 248     

Agenda 

Title

start

duration

Title

start

duration

1

Welcome

14:00

10'

2

Common elements

14:10

30'

3

SITCOM tasks

14:40

20'

4

SSCONE tasks

15:00

25'

5

AOB

15:25

5'

6

Close

15:30

-

 


Welcome

Objectives of this meeting are:

  • new policy with Confluence access

  • Handbook Publication

  • Decide on December F2F

  • progress on SITCOM & SSCONE tasks

Common elements

Feedback from previous meetings

This is the first joint meeting. Previous meetings were not yet combined. The notes can be found in 2019-07-09-SITCOM and in 2019-07-15 SSCONE webex.

New policy with Confluence access

 

Dear SITCOM member,

 You will have seen a lot of activity on Confluence today. The good news is that you can ignore it! Here is my summary instead.

 I have been updating the Confluence site as follows:

 Freezing the Supporting Material (https://ext.eurocontrol.int/swim_confluence/display/SWIM)

I have deleted all of the comments that were attached to the Supporting Material. The comments have been stored off-line in case we need to check anything in the future. The comments that have not been addressed have been recorded as action items in SITCOM.

Tidying the SITCOM Materials (https://ext.eurocontrol.int/swim_confluence/display/SCOI/SITCOM+-+SWIM+Information+Community+of+Interest)

I have made several changes to the SITCOM material in order to tidy it up:

  • The meeting schedule has been moved to https://ext.eurocontrol.int/swim_confluence/display/SCOI/SSCONE-SITCOM+Meeting+Schedule

  • Better navigation has been put in place

  • The existing comments have been backed-up and deleted in a way similar to that for the supporting material

  • Mentions of names (other than EUROCONTROL staff) have been removed

  • A caveat has been added to each SITCOM task page to make the status clear (working and ‘not for operations’)

  • Several other tidy up things…

I have also added the draft agenda for Thursday’s WebEx: https://ext.eurocontrol.int/swim_confluence/display/SCOI/2019-09-26-SITCOM

Thank you for your patience while I made all of these changes. I think the deluge will stop for now.

Scott

Changes in SSCONE area

  • some pages and pagetress will not become public, and stay with account access

    • Eg -SSCONE kickoff surveyClosed tasks

    • Task pages: clearly mention the work is on going.

    • Meeting pages: anonymise (except for the presentations given at F2F) → remove attendance list (recently added)

SWIM Supporting Material v1.0.0 Alpha

Changes in SSCONE Handbook area

  • Futher preparation to become public

    • move pages not visible by public from Handbook area as tasks within the SSCONE area

 

Decide on F2F

Question: Should we hold a SWIM COI F2F on the day after the workshop (12 Dec)?

outcome:

A SWIM COI F2F will be organised. It will include plenary and SITCOM subjects. See tentative agenda at 2019-12-12 SWIM COI F2F.

Update on SITCOM tasks

The updated task list is at SITCOM Tasks

Review the changes marked as "implemented and to be reviewed" on https://ext.eurocontrol.int/swim_confluence/display/SCOI/Maintain+supporting+material. Email sent on 10th September to detail the changes. No comments received so the edits are accepted. The status of the items will change to "completed".

Discuss item 10:

Update on SSCONE tasks

The updated task list is at SSCONE Tasks.

Feedback on actions

The discussions on comments from Renato lead on a series of actions.

Other tasks

 

Task

Outline & status

Note

Priority

Task

Outline & status

Note

Priority

Service Identification Document (SID)

Making the "A-CDM services identification document" available as an example. See -Service Identification Document

Comment : This would be a good idea to work on. It relates to the Basic steps to new services, specifically to the identification step in the Service Orientation Process. It could result in a template for use by others.

 

outcome:

No review comment. The SID example is decided to be good as is.

 

can be closed

2

017 clarification on Message Exchange Pattern

 

outcome:

No direct comment on the proposal. Comments open until newt webex (18/11).

 

for your review

 

009 Progressing on agreed service categories

Related to requirement SWIM-SERV-009 Service categories

 

outcome:

not discussed

 

waiting freedback from Registry development

2

FAQ - Service descriptions

To be update with some of the questions raised during the meeting 2019-05-23 SSCONE F2F

 

outcome:

not discussed

 

2

Comment on Conformance assessment

Receveid comment about "Recommended requirement not satisfied" within Conformance assessment report

I would personally prefer to use a different symbol for this status. I would recommend the usage of a triangular sign with an exclamation mark in it. You can activate this in Confluence by typing ( ! ) without the spaces. The result would be
After all not complying with a recommendation should point the user's attention but it is not per definition wrong/rejected as the "thumbs down" symbol suggests.

Question: Is it ok to use  instead of  in conformance assessment.

Impact on handbook: Conformance assessment reportConformance assessment - Donlon example

 

outcome:

No direct comment on the proposal. Comments open until newt webex (18/11).

 

for your review

 

 

Any other business

Use of specifications

Questions:

  • Progress on use of the spec?

  • Difficulties encountered?

  • Examples to be shared, or to work on?

Next meetings

Meeting schedule is maintained at SSCONE-SITCOM Meetings. Next Webex on 18th Nov 1400: combined SITCOM & SSCONE.

Note in particular

Close meeting

 

Status: Working Material