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Venue

Date: 11 Mar 2019  1400-1530

webex link: https://eurocontrol-conferences.webex.com/join/wvanhamm   |  706 775 248     

Agenda

Discuss CR ?5

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Title

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1Welcome14:0010'
2Feedback from previous webex14:105'
3Update on tasksFinalise initial handbook14:1530'
4Finalise initial handbookReview the Donlon example14:453015'
5Update on other tasks15:0015'
6Next meetings15:2015105'
7Close15:3020-
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Welcome

Objectives of this meeting are:

  • progress on the tasks
  • processing review comments(publish first version of handbook)

Feedback from previous meeting

Action list

Short-term actions identified during 2019-01-28 SSCONE webex.

  • Webex moved from 22 to 23 Apr. 
  • F2F re-scheduled to 21-23 May.

Update on tasks

The task list is at SSCONE Tasks.

Task /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606295

TaskDescriptionStatusPriority
/wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606295

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Finalise initial handbook
Finalise initial handbook
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  •  Action (all): provide review comments by 5/3/19
  •  processing comments

Comments received from : Sam and Oliver Krüger2 SSCONE members.

Comments are being processed. 

Proposed conclusionoutcome:

some pending questions

 

  • Some actions recorded /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606295
  • rework needed for service categories
  • update needed for XML example
  • Q: Access by SSCONE members to the artefacts from SWIM Governance Implementation Project: this will be resolved by the planned public website that would be available by Oct 2019.
  • Should we restrict acccess to some pages before publishing first version of the handbook.
      outcome
        • It is not a problem to go public with Open Questions or Work in Progress elements in web page.
      • After updates, can be officially published as first version of service description handbook.

      Task /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606173

      TaskDescriptionStatusPriority
      /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606173

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      Review the Donlon example
      Review the Donlon example
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      •  Action (all): provide review comments by 5/3/19
      •  processing comments

      Comments received from : Steffen Beringer and Oliver Krüger2 SSCONE members.

      Comments are being processed

      Proposed conclusionoutcome:   

      Agenda point for F2F (where someone from SWIM Governance Implementation Project will present the principles of SWIM Compliance)

      Added example for Donlon: Conformance assessment - Donlon example.

      outcome
      • A conformance matrix added has been added for the Donlon example: Conformance assessment - Donlon examplesome elments missing . This makes clear that the example service description is not complete (eg access and use conditions; eg example code)
      • Example Code: probably not possible for the Donlon example. We will have to wait for an example of a service that is effectively implemented. 
      • Making services using a specific data format (eg GRIB2) reordering more discoverable. This could be resolved by making a field explicit in the Registry. This will be proposed to the Registry requirement gathering activity.
      • Reordering of section for better readability (eg business experts, developers)
        • Any suggestion?
      • Comment from Oliver K on use fo service...
        • helps to udnerstand what the specification requires
      • Any better example?

      outcome

      Task Conformance assessment

      Task

      Description

      Status

      Priority

      /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59605293 Insert excerptConformance assessmentConformance assessmentnopaneltrueyes
        • Expanding the Table of Content improves reading by making clear the structure of the document. 
        • Any suggestion for an improved reading (eg improved ordering of sections) is welcome.
      • The idea of having a template for a textual service description that would generate an XML service description is not retained currently.
      • Additional / better examples: One SSCONE member indicates that LFV has written full fledge Service Descriptions Documents (SDDs) for their services. These could become interesting examples.
        •  Check whether LFV would allow SSCONE to make use of their SDDs as examples.

      Task /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606015

      TaskDescriptionStatusPriority
      /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606015

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      Process Change Request 168/1
      Process Change Request 168/1
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      To be closed by next F2F.

      Agenda point for F2F.

      Main discussion point is probably to choose between these 2 options

      option Aoption Boverall ideaThe Service Description specification should enforce AIRM conformance

      It is not the role of the the Service Description specification to enforce AIRM conformance.

      rationale

      AIRM conformance is key to semantic interoperability.

      Interoperability is an essential goal to achieve.

      AIRM conformance is already enforced through the Information Definition specification.

      Redundant requirements may be create confusion.

      implicationConformance to the Service Description specification implies AIRM conformance.

      Conformance to the Service Description specification does not imply AIRM conformance.

      Conformance to the Information Definition specification implies AIRM conformance.

      advice on handling CR

      Change the specification.

      see eg "revert back proposal"

      Do not change the specification.update of handbook

      Insist on AIRM conformance.

      Make reference to change request and advice.

      Insist on AIRM conformance.

      Make clear that its enforcement is in the scope of the Information Definition specification.

      • either "Should the Service Description specification enforce AIRM conformance"
      • or "Should AIRM conformance enforcement beshould AIRM conformance is this fully

      outcomeAdded a table of discussion points about the 2 options. The main point of discussion is: which SWIM specification should require the AIRM conformance?The Information Definition specification? The Service Description specification? Or both? The answer may be crucial to handling the CR.

      outcome

      • This will be further discussed during F2F.

      Task Conformance assessment

      Task

      Description

      Status

      Priority

      /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59605293


      Insert excerpt
      Conformance assessment
      Conformance assessment
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      yes

      Agenda point for F2F (where someone from SWIM Governance Implementation Project will present the principles of SWIM Compliance)

      Added example for Donlon: Conformance assessment - Donlon example.

      outcome

      • not discussed.

      Any other business

      Use of specifications

      Questions:

      • Progress on use of the spec?
      • Difficulties encountered?
      • Examples to be shared, or to work on?

      Next meetings

      Meeting schedule is maintained at SSCONE MeetingsMeeting Notes.
      Next Webex on Tu 23 Apr 14:00.

      Combined F2F

      with SITCOM

      on 21-23 May

      . With SSCONE day on 23 May 0900-1600.==Q: and SWIM-TEC ??

      Agenda

      • Day 1 (1300-1700) - SITCOM
      • Day 2 (0900-1700) - SWIM Education Session (combined SSCONE, SITCOM & SWIM-TEC)
      • Day 3 (0900-1600) - SSCONE

      About SSCONE day

      • Question: someone interested in presenting something? In sharing experience?
        • Eg Possibly on the suggested use of some MET-GATE project?
        Agenda points == (make visible the existing page)
        • services.

      Close meeting