this page is in WORKING status
This page intents to contain the minutes of the face to face meeting.
Current status :
- the presentations used during the meeting are included
- the notes taken are being processed
Once the page is ready, SITCOM and SSCONE members will be informed.
Meeting details
Venue
Date: 12 Dec 2019 0900-1600
Location: ECTL HQ Brussels (meeting room "General Aviation")
webex link: https://eurocontrol-conferences.webex.com/join/wvanhamm | 706 775 248
Objectives
The meeting aims to:
- have end of year review
- discuss some technical subjects
- identify future activities
Agenda
Item | SWIM COI | Title | Time |
---|---|---|---|
1 | all | Welcome, Objectives, Agenda, | 0900 |
2 | all | Review of the year and specification status | 0915 |
Coffee | 1000 | ||
3 | all | Update on tasks | 1020 |
4 | all | Review of /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606150 in service development | 1050 |
5 | SITCOM | Review/approval of candidate better practices. See Defining better practices | 1130 |
Lunch | 1200 | ||
6 | SITCOM | Work on Semantic correspondence training material | 1300 |
Coffee | 1430 | ||
7 | all | Discussion on next year's activities | 1450 |
8 | all | Any other business | 1535 |
9 | all | Close | 1600 |
These sessions are most relevant to those interested in the information aspects of SWIM. However, they are useful to those developing services.
1. Welcome
2. Retrospective & Specification status
What went well
- Comments handled by the group; dialogue on comments; the Confluence tool.
- Supporting material and related discussions are helpful
What could be improved
- JSON Schema comes as a surprise. Not only is it a different format (JSON instead of XML), but the structure and ordering is different and requires analysis to see mapping.
- Examples should come in JSON as well. Including their conformance assessment.
- Participants have put their internal work on XML service descriptions on hold. Waiting to know whether the Registry would accept XML as well.
- Question raised is Why JSON?
- There is a lack of coordination with other groups such as EUROCAE WG104 and Registry CCB. This raises concerns. This seems like SWIM stove pipes. The SWIM related activities need be more coordinated. One example is where is the format discussed.
- The SWIM implementation workshop should have brought a better visibility to the SWIM COIs.
- Could we bring together the various COIs and CCBs?
- Registry decisions have a big impact. Suggestion is to have debrief from Registry in next meeting, that would bring clarity and answers to questions (no need for marketing). Eg on Example, conformance, list of Schemas in Registry, …
- Level of engagement of some members.
3. Update on tasks
Task Evolving the handbook
- Evergreen (~living doc) vs sprint
- Both are needed. Depending on kind of changes (whether small correction or completely new advice).
- Ok for the change log.
- Handbooks version is currently 1.0.0 alpha. There is no need to maintain this at alpha.
- Update handbook version to 1.0.0 (action WILSON Scott or Former user (Deleted) )
- A request is expressed to export all pages as a single pdf doc. This requires an add-on currently not installed for SWIM Confluence.
- Investigate about exporting as a single pdf (action WILSON Scott )
- Note that the "Full table of content" section of the ServDesc handbook or the InfoDefn handbook is a generated TOC listing all pages within the handbook. This is helps in knowing precisely what the content of the handbook is.
4.-6. Work items
4. /wiki/spaces/SCOI/pages/59606150
5. Defining better practices
6. Semantic correspondence training material
7. Next year's activities
Evolving objectives & activities
Elements flowing out of the discussions
- Registry needs to be made live.
- Risk exists however that it will be full of services that nobody uses.
- Operational use may be slow to pick up at least in ATM. UTM may be quicker
- geofencing initiatives may not be aligned
- nice to look at WFS for METAR services
- identify simple use cases where SWIM makes an impact (eg should we be starting with UTM?)
- make the conformance evidence a stronger requirement
- check the registry conforms to the specs
- consider PANS - it will lead to service overviews
- still focus on the "used effectively" part of the initial objectives. The word support is too strong, it is give advice and highlight advice.
Meetings
Participants opted for joint progress meetings on Monday 2pm every 6 week. Invitation will follow
- Send webex invitation Former user (Deleted)
For other meetings (technical webex or F2F), it would be useful to separate Service subjects from Information subjects, as not everyone is interested in both.